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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 10:39:00 -
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Ok, it seems to me that the worst problem with macro minining is the ice belts. Just look in the Jita Ice belts 99% macro mining.
The problem with ice, is that it doesn't deplete, or move and you don't need to jet can mine as you can fill your cargo ...warp to st...unload...warp back to bm for another load. I've seen this trend happening now.
My solution is to take ice belts out of 0.4 and up. Only have Npc's sell it in empire. Ice is needed a lot due to all the pos's so is an everlasting supply of isk for the macro miners. No risk ..no work needed.
Take the ice away form empire and you would have messed up their macro mining ops. Let Npc's sell it and you won't hurt the pos people.
Only let it be mined in 0.3 and below, try mining ice there macro heads he he.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 10:46:00 -
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I think this would be a good solution as it only harms macro miners, no one mines ice these days.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
Originally by: Martin Gore I think this would be a good solution as it only harms macro miners, no one mines ice these days.
Why are they mining only ice then? There must be some value left.
I mean't no real person does...only machine macro's. 
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 12:11:00 -
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I know a few real ice miners would lose out, but who mines ice for profit anyway.... it's dropped in price so much latly that it's not worth it.
I would say a huge amount of ebay source money comes from ice mining and the increase in need for pos fuel. The amount of ice miners has gone up a silly amount the past month. Kill the ice miners...kill a lot of the macro miners profit.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 12:23:00 -
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How would they get pc hardware info though?
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 12:55:00 -
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Ice price has dropped by 50%, macro miners have gone up mining ice buy a LOT, ebay price has fallen a lot. All of this in a month...
Too much of a coincedence??
You can't really run 5 or more accounts actually playing the game properly. So from afk mining ice 23/7 to actually playing game (which they just won't do) will cut macro'ers/sweatshops money buy a huge amount.
It wasn't until ice could be mined and the recent increase in pos's and adding not much being done by ccp to stop it.... that this al became a real problem.
Take away the easy money, and you take away a lot of their isk.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 12:59:00 -
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Npc's selling ice I reckon would totally mess up there business. You can't really make a huge amount of money in this game unless you are very good at playing it properly (unless you macro). I doubt if these people would have the patience or will to train up char's for months and months to be able to survive 0.0
I think dev's should try taking ice out of empire belts for a month or 2 to see what happens :) Pos owners won't be hurt as Npc's will sell it like they do robotics. A few ice miners might be hit, but come on ... no one mines ice for profit... unless he he 
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.27 15:09:00 -
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Yep there is no need for ice in empire. It won't solve the whole problem but I think it will kill of 60% of macro miners. Good to see some decent ideas rather than the trolls 
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.28 06:48:00 -
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It's going to be a long wait with these guys mining ice 24/7  
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.28 09:59:00 -
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It's a lot harder to macro mine belts than it is Ice.... Ice doesn't run out. They would look much more obvious taking all the ore from belts. Ice is a total afk job.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.28 15:08:00 -
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I still think moving Ice to npc sales and 0.4 and below would solve a lot of problems.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.28 21:38:00 -
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A well rounded post, cheers for sorting through all the ideas. I hope ccp are listening.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.29 07:15:00 -
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A mate of mine just joined an anti macro corp called "Marco Miner Murdering Association" yes... with the spelling mistake.
They took out a load of macro mining barges, I'll be joining them tonight :)
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.29 08:56:00 -
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Nooby ore that only noobie's can mine, that's a great idea :) have it so that you can only mine it if your less tan 2 weeks old.
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.29 18:47:00 -
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You guys should see Jita Ice belts....a lot of macro's getting spanked he he. Pods everywhere ...now thats the spirit    
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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.11.30 12:23:00 -
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To large barges down so far... seems Jita has only retrievers macroing now : )
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